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Where does tourism sit in the grand vision of NEOM and how integral is it to the success of the project itself?
Tourism plays a number of significant roles. First, it is a path into NEOM. It will be the first experience that many of the world’s peoples will have here, before they are residents and before they establish businesses and connections. Beyond the majestic raw landscapes and coastlines, they will experience our commitment to sustainability and renewables – not to mention our plans to regenerate nature, propel the world forward with groundbreaking thinking and cutting-edge tech. All of that is core to our vision.
Second, it represents opportunities for the global community – in particular Saudis – to play an active and important role in building NEOM. The Kingdom has ambitious targets for visitation and we are a key player in that. The welcome we give visitors and the experiences we create for them will build our fame. We expect the tourism industry to be one of the top employers in NEOM by 2030.
Third, we will create a true visitor economy. Visitation is not just about a stay in a hotel, although our hotels will be the best in the world, for sure. It is all the experiences that sit around that – from transport, transfers, food, experiences, events and retail. This is where we will not only generate revenue for the tourism industry, but also help support mobility, aviation, sport, media, fashion and culture.
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What are some of the world firsts that your team is working on?
Our goal is to become the world's most appealing-yet-sustainable destination. In fact, we want to go one further, we want to be a net-positive destination. The recent past was all about ‘leave no trace’. We want to go further with ‘leave it better’.
Through a dynamic app experience, you will be able to make choices at each point in your trip to NEOM that will create positive legacies. You can craft itineraries that will increase your positive contribution – from the transport you choose, the food you eat, the activities you take through to what you buy. It will mean that you will know exactly the good you are doing with every choice and every step you take in NEOM – for the environment, the culture and the local economy.
We are also using augmented reality and virtual reality to bring our stories to life. Fully immersive experiences will tell our rich heritage and nature stories.
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NEOM is aiming for best-in-class travel and hospitality. Can you map out what that looks like?
The project is of this earth, but not of this world. There is an alchemy of a raw majestic land upon which the future will be built. Everything we will do for travelers will be connected to the authenticity of our land, sky and sea here. This is also one of our differentiators against our competitors. Travelers want authentic experiences that make them feel alive, surprised and human. Upon this, we will create out-of-the-box experiences. Bold ideas and technology will help us reimagine tourism and travel.
Think about Trojena, our development in the mountains of NEOM. Here you will be able to ski in the snow in Saudi Arabia. Truly amazing. Equally, with our rewilding projects, you will be able to witness the once-lost native animals roaming the savannahs once again. We are already regrowing the world’s largest coral garden, as part of our unwavering commitment to the environment.
We also want to take the pain points out. Travel has become slower and tougher, whereas most sectors have used technology to become quicker and easier. It’s arduous to get through borders and the pandemic exacerbated that. But we will make NEOM the easiest place to come to.
This is a beautiful and wondrous place. It's 26,500 square kilometers with magnificent diversity. From high mountains that get snow in the winter to the deep waters of the Gulf of Aqaba. Vast deserts of rich and varied sands, with high sandstone mountains punctuating the skies. There are more than 450 kilometers of coastline with 41 islands, 12 of which sit above the water all-year-round and boast incredible coral reefs full of life. We have dugong and whale sharks in our waters. There is also thriving bird life, including magnificent ospreys and sooty falcons.
In addition, one of the fastest-growth areas in tourism is adventure travel and we will provide that too. This is a challenging environment so if you want to base-jump, Via Ferrata [a climbing route that employs steel cables, rungs or ladders fixed to the rock], go bouldering, mountain biking, hiking, skiing, snorkeling or diving then you can do it here. In fact, you can ski in the morning and snorkel in the afternoon.
Show me another destination where you can do that. We have every natural asset required to make a great destination and we can play in the categories where people love to holiday. So that’s what we want to do. Given that we've got this big focus on wellness too through our Health sector, we’ll also give you respite.
We have an incredible untold story too. If you think about this land, you've got this heritage tourism. You've got sun-and-sea tourism. You've got adventure tourism. And then we can build in other options like medical tourism, business events, sporting events and so on. And we haven’t even spoken about THE LINE, our revolution in urbanism. So it's a pretty complete picture.
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How does innovative design come into that?
It is one of our four pillars. What I see is the world's best architects, designers and artists challenging themselves to rewrite the rules to create structures that the world could never have imagined until now.
Another pillar is what we call an Arabian service culture. What you don't want to lose is your authenticity. You know, the chance to see the unseen, to touch and feel the authentic Kingdom is here. In many ways, this is the last discovery from a tourism perspective. And I think if we can turn the beautiful Saudi culture – which is very family-oriented, open and welcoming to the point you get invited literally into people's homes – into a service culture, that can be distinctive within our hotels and attractions. That’s a really strong point. We must make sure that we hang on to the things that only Saudi Arabia can own.
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Do you expect everything that you’re talking about will form an innovative blueprint that other countries will follow? Is that part of the goal?
Our mission is to forever alter the possibilities of travel. It has become homogenized. What you can experience in one place, you can now experience in several. We like to push ourselves into new places and this is what drives us. We have some of the world’s brightest minds here in NEOM, empowered to do things differently.
I see NEOM as a gift to the world. We are doing what we are doing because it’s the right thing to do. The thinking and ideas we develop here will hopefully inspire others and if we all keep pushing each other to go further and better, for the benefit of humankind and the planet, that’s a great thing. A better future is at the heart of all we are doing.
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Can you walk us through the timeline for NEOM's tourism goals?
By the end of 2025, we will be targeting from 800,000 to a million people coming here for a holiday, business event or sporting event. So we start relatively calmly and ramp up appropriately. We want to make sure that as we do that, we protect the environment.
The aim by 2030 is to see five-million-plus people coming here. And to get that done, we obviously need our airport complete. We'll have a port for cruising. We'll have our stadium built. We'll have our conference and convention spaces. And we'll be well underway with our cities and a population that can invite friends and family to visit.
To get to our goals, we've got to become the number one preferred destination for Saudis. Currently, a huge number of Saudis leave the Kingdom for holidays, spending US$24 billion a year elsewhere.
Within the Gulf Cooperation Council, we have to become a top-three destination. Globally, our aim is to become a top-five destination. We’ve done the research and virtually every Saudi knows about NEOM. And if we could host them now, 57% would come tomorrow. So we know that there's no shortage of curiosity and demand. When we start to open our assets, we'll get a big Saudi audience. We’ll have to do more in other areas of the globe – including Europe, the United Kingdom, the Americas, China and India. But we know that what we are doing will have significant appeal and the fact that we are only a 6-hour flight from 40% of the world gives us access to significant markets. As we grow the volume, we will ensure our environment is protected. That's why the promise to keep 95% of NEOM undeveloped, in fact regenerated, is an essential aspect of NEOM tourism. It helps us balance volume with regeneration.
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And how is daily life now in the NEOM community?
We are well looked after. Yes, we work hard, but all of us are here to leave a legacy and help bring the vision to life. There is a real collegiate approach. We work together and often play together. The projects are extraordinary, so it’s not hard to get up in the morning.
When it’s time for some leisure, this place is blessed with some of the most majestic and raw landscapes on earth. It has the most pristine and beautiful coastlines I have ever experienced. All of this is on our doorstep and we do take advantage of it. Many of us go adventuring on weekends. For me, I am drawn to the beach and the vibrant waters and corals. For others, they head to the majestic mountains or vast deserts to sleep out under the stars – or to discover the rich heritage and culture. It’s amazing that our job is to help the world discover this wonderful land.
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What do you think is a popular misconception that people have about NEOM?
I think the perception is that it is a desert, rolling sand dunes and little else. The reality is that there are 26,500 square kilometers of the most diverse landscapes you can imagine.
We have high mountains that receive snowfall, high cliffs that plunge into deep waters that are 1.8 kilometers in depth, vast red deserts with high sandstone mountains and savannahs teeming with wildlife, as well as spectacular coastlines and beautiful vibrant waters full of some of the world’s most rare sea life.
It is a land of magnificent diversity and this will set us apart from the other giga-projects. Visitors will be able to ski in the morning and relax on the beach in the afternoon, before witnessing the greatest star show in the desert at night.
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Can you tell us about your career before this and what led you to come here?
My background is building brands and creating brand stories. I thrive being around new thinking. I’ve previously helped brands in the airline, tourism, media, luxury, tech and lifestyle spaces. All of these come into my thinking when looking at NEOM.
I am fortunate to have worked in some of the best creative agencies in the world – including TBWA and Leo Burnett. I’ve seen the power in distinctive storytelling. Products are homogenous; brands live in people’s hearts and that’s what I want for NEOM. To be a place in the world’s heart, not just a new place on the world map.
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And what was the clincher then for you to join the project?
NEOM is not just a destination. It is an idea, and ideas change the world. The ambition is huge. We are being given the rare opportunity to build a brand from scratch and not just any brand. We get to take the NEOM vision and create a destination for the world to discover. It is an audacious vision.
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Can you talk a little bit about the legacy that you want to leave here?
We want to create a destination that will live large in the global imagination. NEOM is more than a destination, it is an idea. Ideas live large and I want to create programs that do justice to the idea. Beyond this, I want to impart what I have learned over 35 years to help the people I work with to progress and push to do new things in new ways.